Feb 16, 2013 10:00am PST
on this show in mid-january. we discussed the debt ceiling. you voted against the deal to suspend the debt ceiling with 34 of your fellow senators but it passed anyway. what yo do you need to see in a bill to avoid the sequester sometime between now and the end of february? >> ali, first of all, as someone who did run a business for 22 years, i'm embarrassed about the way we're operating the country right now and i want to say that up front. sequestration is a bad idea. we ought to be doing our business, approapriating and budgeting, making decisions on cost b-benefit analysis. these continual deadlines and cliffs is no way to run a country much less a company. >> when you run a company, you have these things called poison pills. that's what the sequestration was. something to awful it would prevent a certain course of action from taking place. why is it that elected officials don't treat that the same way that you would if you were in business? if you had a poison pill in your business to say if you don't do something x will happen or if you do x would happen, you'd avoid that bad thing.
Feb 20, 2013 8:00pm EST
focused, at least on the message side. that debt ceiling fight, our numbers were as bad as they were throughout the whole presidency. there was, you know, the predators in washington were swirling around. and our folks were nervous. it was clear that we needed -- that we were now in a situation where we had to fight and we had to pull out the nose dive we were in. but the mechanisms -- the mechanisms were already there. there were mechanical things that had to be done. we knew they would have a big primary and we would have time to put things in motion, while they were busy. >> take me through -- when did you -- when do you have to start those things to build programs? >> i was at the d.n.c. at 2009 and 2010. a lot of work we did there was building a foundation for the re-election. there were a lot of things under the radar. building on some of the internal polling that we did, honing our 50-state strategy and training our volunteers and giving them something to do to empower them in an off year that a president doesn't normally done. we built off of that once we got to chicago. >> w